![]() In other words, if you like solving math problems, if you like these sorts of social and political and economic and mathematical worlds in which the sort of dominant power sits, those are important to you. And you like that sort of thing if you're the kind of person who likes that sort of thing. The problem there is you do identify people who are very good at solving particular problems. The psychometry movement was a movement to measure our capacity to solve problems and resulted in the IQ test, among other things. ![]() And so the most prominent result of that kind of thinking is something called psychometry, psychometry. ![]() There lies peril, because if you take that route and you begin to ask what problems are, it's very easy to reduce everything to the kinds of problems that we're good at, or I should say some of us are good at. In fact, there are more than a few people who would claim that all intelligences refer to some kind of problem solving. So the simplest formulation of intelligence, and you'll, you'll see this a lot, has to do with problem solving. So you could say that our job as thinkers, our job as intelligent beings, is to come into interaction with the world in a way that does good things. So I begin with the idea that there is a universe and that apprehending that universe in some successful way is a goal of life. It’s implicit, I guess, explicit in that is the idea that there is no one unitary thing that is intelligence, that there are many, many different instantiations of this thing. I think the first thing to remember is that our project has that “s” on the end: diverse intelligences. ![]() You had mentioned to me in advance that you would ask this and I have been sleepless because of it. Pranab Das: So this is a, it's a great question. Let’s start at the very beginning: Richard Sergay: I want to throw out the basic term intelligence and within a few minutes, although I know we could take the rest of your career to try and define it, tell me how you define intelligence. Richard will be in conversation with researchers exploring questions around all these intelligences. He has long been interested in interdisciplinary studies, particularly around the relationship between science and spirituality, and for the last several years he’s been the Principal Advisor to the Diverse Intelligences Initiative from Templeton World Charity Foundation, which has a three-part mission: to map the contours of intelligence found in the natural world to nourish the dimensions of human intelligence, including social, moral, and spiritual intelligence and to encourage the practical and positive applications of artificial intelligence and machine learning. We begin our series speaking with Pranab Das, who has, for 25 years, been a professor of physics at Elon University in North Carolina. Throughout the coming weeks, we’ll be in conversation with some of the world’s most cutting-edge scientists leading research projects focusing on intelligence - not just human intelligence, but animal and machine intelligence as well. This season, we’re diving into the question: What are diverse intelligences? If you’ve ever wondered.if a dolphin is smarter than a chimp, if honeybees can learn even faster than rats do, and if there’s any way for us to learn about how aliens might communicate, this season of conversations is for you. I’m producer Tavia Gilbert, and in every episode of this podcast, journalist Richard Sergay and I bring you a conversation about the newest scientific research on human flourishing, and how those discoveries can be translated into practical tools. Tavia Gilbert: Welcome to Stories of Impact. Transcript of the "Stories of Impact" podcast episode What are Diverse Intelligences? with Dr. ![]()
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